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mckitterick ([personal profile] mckitterick) wrote2010-11-16 01:07 pm

Authors: What to do about ebook ripped and shared?

So I happened to do a search on my book and discovered that the top results no longer link to my website (or Amazon or Powell's or Alibris or whatever) but instead to a wide variety of file-sharing networks.

Is this normal these days? Do I combat it by doing the same, offering my own free download on my website as an "official" way to get it free? Do I contact all the forum managers to remove such posts - or is that a Sisyphean effort? Or do I not try to combat it at all and learn to like it?

Huh!

EDIT: Or should I just take it as a compliment that someone liked it enough to share it? *sigh*

EDIT2: I've decided to fight fire with fire and just give it away electronically!

Thanks for any advice,
Chris

[identity profile] chernobylred.livejournal.com 2010-11-16 07:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I think if you try to find all the places that are putting your work up without your permission, and attempt to get them to remove it, you're never going to have the time to write anything new.

[identity profile] mckitterick.livejournal.com 2010-11-16 08:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm afraid so. It's kind of flattering that someone worked so hard to create multiple file types from a ripped Kindle. Maybe they'll send me copies, too, so I don't have to make them for my own site ;-)

[identity profile] ryltar.livejournal.com 2010-11-16 07:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Unfortunately the only thing you can do is contact each site and ask them to take the file down as the original copyright holder. Most sites have a DMCA policy at the bottom of the page. Unfortunately, as red said, that is eat all your time.

[identity profile] mckitterick.livejournal.com 2010-11-16 08:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I started contacting sites, but it's a mega-pain, mostly because it's nearly impossible to find contact info unless you're a member. Egad.

[identity profile] kalimeg.livejournal.com 2010-11-17 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
Did you use whois? That is the easy way. Then past the address of the contact into a bcc and contact lots of folks with the same request.

[identity profile] mckitterick.livejournal.com 2010-11-17 03:21 am (UTC)(link)
I do not know of this magic contact tool of which you speak. Please enlighten me!

[identity profile] kalimeg.livejournal.com 2010-11-18 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
http://www.networksolutions.com/whois-search/

Go to this site, and enter your main domain name (ending with .com, .net, .org, etc) -- or enter an IP address. On the page you get there should be contact information.

One time someone was talking about KU's web site and did not know who was responsible for it, so I went to the whois for KU's web site and got the information.

[identity profile] kalimeg.livejournal.com 2010-11-18 03:54 am (UTC)(link)
You're welcome. I learned about it a long time ago when chat was all IRC -- no sweet little interfaces until AOL's IM came along.

[identity profile] auroraceleste.livejournal.com 2010-11-16 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I think you know google search rankings, is there a way we can link to McKitterick's stie or Amazon en-masse in blogs and such to at least push the crap down the search page?

[identity profile] mckitterick.livejournal.com 2010-11-17 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
That's a great idea, thanks! Here are the links:

My site with an HTML excerpt (where people can download the whole thing in .pdf format for free):
http://www.sff.net/people/mckitterick/Me/Transcendence1.htm

My publisher's website with my book:
http://www.hadleyrillebooks.com/transcendence.html

Here's the link to Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/0982946708/?tag=CSSF-20

It's also been Kindled:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004BA5GJ0/?tag=CSSF-20

Powell's:
http://www.powells.com/biblio?PID=29700&cgi=product&isbn=9780982946701

Barnes & Noble:
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Transcendence/Christopher-McKitterick/e/9780982946701

It's at lots of other places, too, like Alibris and so forth.

Thank you!
Chris

[identity profile] mckitterick.livejournal.com 2010-11-17 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
And I created a Creative Commons license for it. I'm clever! ;-)

[identity profile] gryphonrose.livejournal.com 2010-11-16 07:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Sadly, I don't think there's any way to stop it. I'd say just relax, be happy people are reading it no matter where they're getting it, and know that the people who read it and enjoy it will search out your next one--and at least a few of those will decide "hey, I liked his last one, this time I'm going to actually buy it from him!" :)

[identity profile] mckitterick.livejournal.com 2010-11-16 08:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, that's half of how I feel!

[identity profile] gwyndolin.livejournal.com 2010-11-16 07:44 pm (UTC)(link)
There's definitely a balance issue -- to try and track down every pirated copy will only drive you nuts. On the other hand, if you see your book on a site, do contact the admins and get them to take it down. No reason to leave the ones you find up.

[identity profile] bogwitch64.livejournal.com 2010-11-16 08:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I vote for gwyndolin!

That seems most sensible to me. Knock down the ones you find, but don't drive yourself nuts.

[identity profile] mckitterick.livejournal.com 2010-11-18 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
I did contact the two biggest torrent sources (as opposed to the sharing sites), and they've already said they took down the file.

[identity profile] bogwitch64.livejournal.com 2010-11-18 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
As far as I've heard, the bigger sights are quick to rectify the situation. Still, wouldn't it be wiser to check BEFORE posting it up?

[identity profile] mckitterick.livejournal.com 2010-11-16 08:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I tried contacting a few of the file-sharing places, but it's a HUGE PITA - most don't have a way to contact the admin without becoming a paying member. Good lord.

[identity profile] lanerobins.livejournal.com 2010-11-16 08:59 pm (UTC)(link)
When it happened to the Sylvie books, the publisher worked to knock down the top ones, just so that my site, etc., would be the first page of search results. After that, it becomes less important, I guess?

[identity profile] mckitterick.livejournal.com 2010-11-16 09:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Excellent point! Thanks for the tip.

[identity profile] geekmom.livejournal.com 2010-11-16 09:12 pm (UTC)(link)
That makes a certain amount of sense, too.

[identity profile] imago1.livejournal.com 2010-11-16 07:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I wrestle with this. I've concluded anonymity as an author is a greater evil than being pirated.

[identity profile] bogwitch64.livejournal.com 2010-11-16 08:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I vote for Laird too! Very wise words, here.

[identity profile] mckitterick.livejournal.com 2010-11-16 08:35 pm (UTC)(link)
So true. I'm going to have to get on the ball about posting free downloads from my OWN site!

[identity profile] imago1.livejournal.com 2010-11-17 03:48 am (UTC)(link)
I think that's wise. The whole thing is annoying as a lot of these sites are based in countries where our laws don't reach.

[identity profile] mckitterick.livejournal.com 2010-11-17 03:50 am (UTC)(link)
...and now I've done it! Posted the whole thing to my site so that maybe people will go there first to get it (free) rather than from unscrupulous types.

[identity profile] geekmom.livejournal.com 2010-11-16 09:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah. I hear you. The ONLY Google Alerts I've had for my book have been ripped eBooks up on share sites. I decided that people who shopped on file sharing sites for books were not people who shopped on Amazon, so I probably didn't lose any actual sales for it.

[identity profile] professormass.livejournal.com 2010-11-16 09:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I 100% agree. More to the point, it's free advertising. I have overheard variants of the following conversation more than once:

"Who's this guy?"
"Good author."
"Where'd you hear about him?"
"Torrent."

As they were buying the book in the local megastore.

[identity profile] stina-leicht.livejournal.com 2010-11-16 09:46 pm (UTC)(link)
contact your publisher. get them to post a knuckle-smacking letter.

[identity profile] the-monkey-king.livejournal.com 2010-11-16 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, this sucks and people oughta know better, but... I've seen a LOT of torrented books and magazines with my name on them. Take down the worst offenders, make your own site the home for this as far as you can, and hope your fans also put down cash for other things.

I'm always amazed that people don't seem to think authors who are paid for their work are likely to make more of it. But the siren call of "free books" is pretty strong.

[identity profile] mckitterick.livejournal.com 2010-11-17 03:51 am (UTC)(link)
I'm hoping my new strategy of giving it away, myself, and asking friends to link to the "official" sites does the trick!

[identity profile] kimberlywade.livejournal.com 2010-11-16 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
A most appropriate tag: "decline of civilization." Sigh.

[identity profile] mckitterick.livejournal.com 2010-11-17 03:51 am (UTC)(link)
Yep. That and road-rage: Two big indicators.

[identity profile] normalcyispasse.livejournal.com 2010-11-16 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Well hell. Maybe just think of the Internet as a big library or something.

[identity profile] ericreynolds.livejournal.com 2010-11-16 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
True, but libraries tend to pay for their books, except for the few that are donated.

[identity profile] alaneer.livejournal.com 2010-11-17 10:31 pm (UTC)(link)
It's a compliment for sure, a terrible one.

I posted about this on FB and LJ. Charles Tan has also added it to his daily links.

Sophy

[identity profile] mckitterick.livejournal.com 2010-11-18 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks, Sophy! And neat to hear about Tan linking it.