Ron Paul is a racist and homophobe. For some 15 years, he published a newsletter that had horrid things to say about blacks, Mexicans, and other minorities, and he ranted about gays and AIDS.

Strangely, when he entered politics, his online newsletter vanished. But recently, a reporter found the print versions at the University of Kansas in the "hate-literature" library collection.

Here's the full story.

I feel dirty that I once thought he'd be the best Republican choice, what with not really being a Republican. Sorry about that. This pretty much cinches it that there is no worthwhile Reptillian candidate this year.

Chris
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From: [identity profile] chernobylred.livejournal.com


Bleh.

Even if he wasn't actually involved with the publishing of the newsletter (as the article suggests is possible), you'd think that in 20 years of publication, he would have sent a cease-and-desist letter if he disagreed with the contents.

From: [identity profile] lazscott.livejournal.com

Thanks for the heads-up


Ron Paul had struck me as a nut.

Now, you've directed me to details that add to my unfavorable opinion of him.

From: [identity profile] mckitterick.livejournal.com

Re: Thanks for the heads-up


Yeah, but what I liked about him (until I learned more) was that he was an honest-to-goodness Libertarian. Now he only serves to support those who say that all Libertarians are nutcases.

*sigh*

From: [identity profile] skyflame.livejournal.com


I met a couple of hard-core Paulites at a wedding a few months ago, and this issue came up. Their argument was that even though he may personally have those beliefs, it doesn't mean that he'd attempt a national policy.


From: [identity profile] mckitterick.livejournal.com


That's great! I can hear echoes of 1934: "I know that Hitler doesn't like Jews, but that doesn't mean that he'd attempt to make it national policy."

From: [identity profile] steve98052.livejournal.com


*cackle*


Again I say, too bad Chuck Hagel bailed. He's the only Republican who ran this time who didn't seem horrible in some way or another.


From: [identity profile] mckitterick.livejournal.com


Yeah, on those "who's your Prez?" quizzes, I got Hagel above some Dem's. Of course.

From: [identity profile] darkyak.livejournal.com


That seems to be a common argument from Paul's supporters.

"Vote Ron Paul! He might not follow through with all of his crazy!"

From: [identity profile] darkyak.livejournal.com


He's distressingly popular among quite a few students here, too.

I think a lot his supporters for the most part see stuff like his opposition to the war in Iraq or his pro-drug stand and run with it, completely missing (or deliberately ignoring) the metric ton of crazy he brings with him.

Doubly true for some of the die-hard Republicans—even though they might have figured out that the whole Iraq adventure, PATRIOT act, and other assorted screwups were bad ideas, there are quite a few who still can never bring themselves to vote for a Democrat (or even concede that voting for Bush was a bad idea . . . I've more than once heard someone say, "Sure Bush was awful, but I bet Kerry still would've been worse!").

Ron Paul is a solution for them. They get vote R while voting against mistakes they see in the current administration. The fact that Paul will bring in a whole new bagful of mistakes gets lost along the way.

Frankly, I'm ready for him to finally drop out of the race so he'll disappear off both campus and the internets. Those are my hangouts, dammit!

From: [identity profile] mckitterick.livejournal.com


Good observations! Yeah, the Paul supporters at KU seem to graffiti up the place in a big way.

From: [identity profile] fortyozspartan.livejournal.com


I think you're right about his supporters "completely missing" it. It's not as if it's out in the open or the media is talking about it. Since that's the case, you wouldn't see it unless you already knew to look for it. I was at first interested in him because he seemed like the only "real" republican running.

From: [identity profile] mckitterick.livejournal.com


Yeah - what ever happened to the Republican party being the party of smaller government?

From: [identity profile] affreca.livejournal.com


I just want to say how much I laugh at KU having a "hate literature" collection.

From: [identity profile] jjschwabach.livejournal.com


Ron Paul is very popular with young people nationwide, unfortunately, and those who think they still are college students. I am in the "he always struck me as a nut" category. To paraphrase Homer, I like his "US out Iraq" policy, but I'm really against his, "Do away with Social Security, Medicaid and Education" policy.

From: [identity profile] countrycousin.livejournal.com


What is this? Whatever your beliefs about how hate literature should be managed, can anyone come up with a rational argument that says that it has not contributed to various past events commonly regarded as disasters?

Is this not sufficient reason for it to be collected and studied? Or are various political beliefs so obviously true that any effort at all that might conceivably undermine them obviously foolish and a waste of money?

If I misinterpret the comments, I apologize - language is your field, not mine.

From: [identity profile] mckitterick.livejournal.com


Oh, absolutely I agree. I was just saying, "Yay that academics are around who collect and study things that repulse most of us."

From: [identity profile] jjschwabach.livejournal.com


Not *that* Homer....
That Homer would have said,

Proud Ron Paul who strode
The fifty states of the Union
A colossus of bigotry and hatred
Loved by bright youth but hated
By all who thought for themselves
Defying the will....

well, you get the picture ;-).

From: [identity profile] roya-spirit.livejournal.com


I REALLY think that it becomes all too apparent when one reads his own official website. just check out the Issues links.

From: [identity profile] steve98052.livejournal.com


cuckoo!
American Independence: "NAFTA superhighway" ? Cuckoo!


cuckoo!
Border Security and Immigration: "But taxpayers should not pay for illegal immigrants who use hospitals, clinics, schools, roads, and social services." ? "End birthright citizenship." ? Cuckoo!


Thumb up
cuckoo!
Debt and Taxes: "We cannot continue to allow private banks, wasteful agencies, lobbyists, corporations on welfare, and governments collecting foreign aid to dictate the size of our ballooning budget." ? Thumb up.


Gold standard (code-worded the Federal Reserve paragraph)? Cuckoo!


cuckoo!
Education: "I have introduced H.R. 1056, the Family Education Freedom Act, in Congress. This bill would allow parents a tax credit of up to $5,000 (adjustable after 2007 for inflation) per student per year for the cost of attendance at an elementary and/or secondary school. This includes private, parochial, religious, and home schools." ? Cuckoo!


Thumb up
cuckoo!
Environment: "I consistently vote against using tax dollars to subsidize logging in National Forests." ? Thumb up.


"In a free market, no one is allowed to pollute his neighbor's land, air, or water. If your property is being damaged, you have every right to sue the polluter, and government should protect that right." ? Cuckoo! (Like the courts would have time for anything else if the only way to stop pollution was to sue polluters.)


Thumb up
cuckoo!
Health Care: "Health care should not be left up to HMOs, big drug companies..." ? "I support... Giving doctors the freedom to collectively negotiate with insurance companies and drive down the cost of medical care." ? Thumb up. "I support... Reform licensure requirements so that pharmacists and nurses can perform some basic functions to increase access to care and lower costs." ? Thumb up.


"The federal government will not suddenly become efficient managers if universal health care is instituted. Government health care only means long waiting periods, lack of choice, poor quality, and frustration. Many Canadians, fed up with socialized medicine, come to the U.S. in order to obtain care. Socialized medicine will not magically work here." ? Cuckoo! (But a very popular "cuckoo" in his party.)



Health Freedom: Huh?

From: [identity profile] steve98052.livejournal.com


cuckoo!
Health Care: "As President I will advance tax credits through the Family Education Freedom Act, which reduces taxes to make it easier for parents to home school by allowing them to devote more of their own funds to their children’s education." ? Cuckoo!



Life and Liberty: "I am strongly pro life. Life begins at conception." ? I disagree with his advocacy of banning abortion, but wouldn't go so far as to label it "cuckoo".


No Taxes on Tips: "It is an outrage that waiters, waitresses, and other service-sector employees have to pay taxes on the tips they earn." ? I'm not sure it's an unreasonable regulation, but it doesn't enforce easily, so it's a reasonable position.


Thumb up
Privacy and Personal Liberty: "I have fought this fight for many years. I sponsored a bill to overturn the Patriot Act and have won some victories, but today the threat to your liberty and privacy is very real. We need leadership at the top that will prevent Washington from centralizing power and private data about our lives." ? Thumb up.


Thumb up
cuckoo!
Property Rights and Eminent Domain: "Today, we face a new threat of widespread eminent domain actions as a result of powerful interests..." ? Thumb up.


"... who want to build a NAFTA superhighway through the United States from Mexico to Canada." ? Cuckoo!


"We also face another danger in regulatory takings: Through excess regulation, governments deprive property owners of significant value and use of their properties – all without paying 'just compensation'." ? Cuckoo!


cuckoo!
Racism: "The true antidote to racism is liberty." ? Cuckoo!


cuckoo!
Social Security: "The proposed solutions, ranging from lower benefits to higher taxes to increasing the age of eligibility, are NOT solutions; they are betrayals." in combination with "We should cut payroll taxes and give workers the opportunity to seek better returns in the private market." ? Cuckoo!


cuckoo!
The Second Amendment: "H.R. 1146 would end our membership in the United Nations, protecting us from their attempts to tax our guns or disarm us entirely." ? "I also recently opposed H.R. 2640, which would allow government-appointed psychiatrists to ban U.S. veterans experiencing even mild forms of Post-Traumatic Stress Syndrome from ever owning a gun." ? Cuckoo!


(Not on his "Issues" page, but he's said stuff along the lines that people should be able to own any weapon they can afford, including artillery, missiles, etc.) ? Cuckoo!


From: [identity profile] steve98052.livejournal.com


Thumb up
cuckoo!
War and Foreign Policy: "The war in Iraq was sold to us with false information. The area is more dangerous now than when we entered it. We destroyed a regime hated by our direct enemies, the jihadists, and created thousands of new recruits for them." (etc.) ? "Too often we give foreign aid and intervene on behalf of governments that are despised. Then, we become despised." ? Thumb up.


"No war should ever be fought without a declaration of war voted upon by the Congress, as required by the Constitution." ? "Under no circumstances should the U.S. again go to war as the result of a resolution that comes from an unelected, foreign body, such as the United Nations." ? Not unreasonable ideas, but the tone says cuckoo!






cuckoo!
Summary: Cuckoo!


From: [identity profile] steve98052.livejournal.com


Whew! After I posted it and realized how long it was, I was worried that you'd be annoyed at me for spamming your message with replies.

From: [identity profile] mckitterick.livejournal.com


Not at all - you made me laugh and laugh. Nothing like visual analysis for a laugh. Also, because it was inside my post, it's not going to mess with my friends' FLs, so it's cool.

From: [identity profile] steve98052.livejournal.com


Cool. I guess icons aren't as disruptive as great big illustrations anyway.


Also, I left icons out for a few of the items. I could have used a cartoon face with a question mark over it for "Health Freedom", inverted the "thumb up" for criminalizing abortion, and maybe The Thinker for getting rid of taxes on tips. Maybe I'll dig up those sorts of icons and repost with them to my own journal, which is probably where I should have posted something that long in the first place. (And just link it in reply to yours.) But I'm spending enough time procrastinating my before-my-wife-comes-home cleaning enough already, so that will have to wait.


From: [identity profile] steve98052.livejournal.com


You'll probably see it next time you read your friend-list, but I adapted the icon-flood to my own journal here.

From: [identity profile] roya-spirit.livejournal.com


:nods:
I love the elitist notion of leaving out parents who don't make enough money to even have a $5000 tax bill. We can all see who's kids THAT idea is going to benefit. Grr.

And trust me, my experience right now with insured health care is exactly what he says about socialized medicine.
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